There's been a lot on the TV about the centenary of WW1 today (today was the first day of the battle of the Somme – by the end of which, over 1 Million men from all sides had been killed, wounded or captured) which has got me thinking about maybe doing a tribute build.
I’m not really a biplane builder – but I’d like to have a stab at a 1/48 Sopwith Camel (what else). From doing a bit of searching on-line the main two kits I can find are the Revel/Monogram (I assume it’s the same kit) and the one from Eduard.
Does anyone have any experience with either kit? I’d like something that looks like a camel, but having only ever built one bi-plane I’d like something I have a chance of actually building. The Eduard kit looks nice but I’ve heard their kits can be quite a difficult build – and I’m mindful that the Revell kit is half the price of the Eduard.
I was also thinking of how I might rig it. I've tried the dollop of glue method and I found it really frustrating - I'd rather have something more mechanical. I'm currently thinking of going the Bob's buckles route, and actually putting mounting loops on the model rather than drilling holes - and then threading the wires through and securing them with model turnbuckels.
What do you think - any thoughts? Do you think the Camel is the right way to go, or would you choose something else? Lets have a bit of WWI Bi-plane chat as a tribute to all those brave men (and for something to discuss).
Regards
Stuart
1/48 Sopwith Camel (Bit of Bi-plane discussion)
1/48 Sopwith Camel (Bit of Bi-plane discussion)
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Re: 1/48 Sopwith Camel (Bit of Bi-plane discussion)
The Revell Camel is actually an old Aurora kit so probably not that good compared to the Eduard:
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/115318- ... -camel-rfc
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/103241- ... -f-1-camel
I would invest in the newer kit but it is probably best to read some reviews of both.
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/115318- ... -camel-rfc
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/103241- ... -f-1-camel
I would invest in the newer kit but it is probably best to read some reviews of both.
Re: 1/48 Sopwith Camel (Bit of Bi-plane discussion)
Sounds as a good plan!portman wrote:There's been a lot on the TV about the centenary of WW1 today (today was the first day of the battle of the Somme – by the end of which, over 1 Million men from all sides had been killed, wounded or captured) which has got me thinking about maybe doing a tribute build.
I’m not really a biplane builder – but I’d like to have a stab at a 1/48 Sopwith Camel (what else). From doing a bit of searching on-line the main two kits I can find are the Revel/Monogram (I assume it’s the same kit) and the one from Eduard.
Does anyone have any experience with either kit? I’d like something that looks like a camel, but having only ever built one bi-plane I’d like something I have a chance of actually building. The Eduard kit looks nice but I’ve heard their kits can be quite a difficult build – and I’m mindful that the Revell kit is half the price of the Eduard.
I was also thinking of how I might rig it. I've tried the dollop of glue method and I found it really frustrating - I'd rather have something more mechanical. I'm currently thinking of going the Bob's buckles route, and actually putting mounting loops on the model rather than drilling holes - and then threading the wires through and securing them with model turnbuckels.
What do you think - any thoughts? Do you think the Camel is the right way to go, or would you choose something else? Lets have a bit of WWI Bi-plane chat as a tribute to all those brave men (and for something to discuss).
Regards
Stuart
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Re: 1/48 Sopwith Camel (Bit of Bi-plane discussion)
Cherrylock is a machine when it comes to WW1 aircraft. I, too have a Sopwith Camel kit in my stash and it's the Academy kit in 1/32 scale.
https://www.scalehobbyist.com/catagorie ... ra=0,5&u=0
You can download the instruction guide of that kit here:
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/533377- ... ed-edition
I know CL recommended me a Fokker D.VII due to minimum amount of rigging involved. I've got 4 different Fokker D.VII kits on my wish list:
Dragon kit:
https://www.scalehobbyist.com/catagorie ... roduct.php
Eduard kits:
https://www.scalehobbyist.com/catagorie ... roduct.php
https://www.scalehobbyist.com/catagorie ... roduct.php
https://www.scalehobbyist.com/catagorie ... roduct.php
Go to Eduard site and type in the kit # and download the instruction guide for each Eduard kit. Hope this helps.
https://www.scalehobbyist.com/catagorie ... ra=0,5&u=0
You can download the instruction guide of that kit here:
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/533377- ... ed-edition
I know CL recommended me a Fokker D.VII due to minimum amount of rigging involved. I've got 4 different Fokker D.VII kits on my wish list:
Dragon kit:
https://www.scalehobbyist.com/catagorie ... roduct.php
Eduard kits:
https://www.scalehobbyist.com/catagorie ... roduct.php
https://www.scalehobbyist.com/catagorie ... roduct.php
https://www.scalehobbyist.com/catagorie ... roduct.php
Go to Eduard site and type in the kit # and download the instruction guide for each Eduard kit. Hope this helps.
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“Send one plane it’s a sortie; send two planes it’s a flight; send four planes it’s a test of airpower. - Richard Kohn
Re: 1/48 Sopwith Camel (Bit of Bi-plane discussion)
Sounds like a quickie Group Build to me!
To make each build less crappy than the last one. Or, put another way, "Better than the last one, not as good as the next one!"..
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Re: 1/48 Sopwith Camel (Bit of Bi-plane discussion)
Aurora Camel: think with lot of screch it is ok, but start with this?
Eduard Camel: I started one, it is one of the detailest and complex WW1 fighers of Eduard with details never seen till finishing your model.
The Camel is like most of UK fighter, single struds (german have V oder Z with more stbisation) and depending on this they have lot of rigging and most have wood panels, this should be trained, it is a eyecatcher or a big problem..
ok, if you think about WW1 trainigsmodels:
-Eduard Fokker DVII, no rigging, colorful, good fit
-Edurard HD.1: minimum parts, minimum rigging alu or frensh 4 color camo
-Nieport Ni11-21: same as HD.2
-Albatros D.V, nice cockpit, with or without wood panels, medium rigging good fit, Revell and Eduard are the same
have fun and make small stops
Eduard Camel: I started one, it is one of the detailest and complex WW1 fighers of Eduard with details never seen till finishing your model.
The Camel is like most of UK fighter, single struds (german have V oder Z with more stbisation) and depending on this they have lot of rigging and most have wood panels, this should be trained, it is a eyecatcher or a big problem..
ok, if you think about WW1 trainigsmodels:
-Eduard Fokker DVII, no rigging, colorful, good fit
-Edurard HD.1: minimum parts, minimum rigging alu or frensh 4 color camo
-Nieport Ni11-21: same as HD.2
-Albatros D.V, nice cockpit, with or without wood panels, medium rigging good fit, Revell and Eduard are the same
have fun and make small stops
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Re: 1/48 Sopwith Camel (Bit of Bi-plane discussion)
I have the Monogram boxing of the old Aurora kit. They actually upgraded the molds before they re issued it. It's not bad, but nowhere near Eduards stuff in finesse of detail. You can grab an affordable Tom's PE set for it and dress it up easily enough.
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Re: 1/48 Sopwith Camel (Bit of Bi-plane discussion)
Thanks for the advice Gents - certainly a lot to mull over.
Stik - What's a Tom's PE set - or should I say - who is the manufacturer ?
Stik - What's a Tom's PE set - or should I say - who is the manufacturer ?
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Re: 1/48 Sopwith Camel (Bit of Bi-plane discussion)
portman wrote:
Stik - What's a Tom's PE set - or should I say - who is the manufacturer ?
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Re: 1/48 Sopwith Camel (Bit of Bi-plane discussion)
http://www.tomsmodelworks.com/catalog/i ... Path=22_28
BlackSheep214 wrote:portman wrote:
Stik - What's a Tom's PE set - or should I say - who is the manufacturer ?
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