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I have a 1/72 BF 109K4 of 12./JG27 (Blue 16 + I) unbuilt from Fine Molds and my research that I will reference here—and if I see anything that is pertinent I will add here.

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I will follow along with you. You already addressed the fuse shape issue. I think overall Hasegawa’s fuse is quite good with the exception of its canopy flatness—you already have a plan to redo this, I think—or is it a detail worth the fix itself?

The roll bar behind the pilot which attaches to the canopy mechanism looks a little too beefy to me, but that is definitely being picayune on my part. To me visually the diameter is a little over half the height of the canopy frame, as it sits in a recess to serve as the canopy opening-closing mechanism.


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Here is a drawing that shows the mechanism and attachment points as well:

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The rest of that cockpit looks incredible! I agree with you about painting the resin to have an overall consistent starting point. I did this on Black 13 because the seat was blue plastic and the resin was dirty gray so the contrast needed to be eliminated before the color coats went down. I just hit that seat with primer to give it a better balance with the other elements.
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:bored: Oh look. A resin pit that actually fits. Go figure.
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More great info Bruce thanks for sharing.
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I am excited to see a K-4 here in 1/32!!
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speedgraflex wrote:I am excited to see a K-4 here in 1/32!!
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Gee wiz. The harness is just kinda bolted on there, isn’t it :giggles: :giggles: clearly these fighters are from a time long before we Nerf’d everything!
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Thanks guys! The prelim work for the resin is always worth doing nice and slow. So that's why I started on it first.
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speedgraflex wrote:I have a 1/72 BF 109K4 of 12./JG27 (Blue 16 + I) unbuilt from Fine Molds and my research that I will reference here—and if I see anything that is pertinent I will add here.

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I will follow along with you. You already addressed the fuse shape issue. I think overall Hasegawa’s fuse is quite good with the exception of its canopy flatness—you already have a plan to redo this, I think—or is it a detail worth the fix itself?

The roll bar behind the pilot which attaches to the canopy mechanism looks a little too beefy to me, but that is definitely being picayune on my part. To me visually the diameter is a little over half the height of the canopy frame, as it sits in a recess to serve as the canopy opening-closing mechanism.


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Here is a drawing that shows the mechanism and attachment points as well:

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The rest of that cockpit looks incredible! I agree with you about painting the resin to have an overall consistent starting point. I did this on Black 13 because the seat was blue plastic and the resin was dirty gray so the contrast needed to be eliminated before the color coats went down. I just hit that seat with primer to give it a better balance with the other elements.
Thanks so much for the input Bruce! Blue 16 is an interesting bird and I think I have some information on it that I can share with you when the time comes. The fuselage issue can be handled a couple of ways. My ideal route is to use the RB Productions brass-framed canopy, which should have the correct profile on top. The instructions for the canopy mention the erroneous flatness of the Hasegawa fuselage and include a cross-section to help you correct it. The canopy is also meant to be movable using simple pin/hole joints but I'm skeptical on how well this will work, especially with the wire restraint system that is shown in your photos. I don't mind the bar part being a little overscale and I'm not planning on shaving it down significantly at this point.

That photo is GREAT... VERY helpful,but tell me, do you know if that is a K-4? The shape of the hatch cover behind the pilot is the exact same shape that the kit provides. However, the photos of K-4's that I've seen show a different shaped hatch. The proximity of the loop antenna and the aerial mast on top of the canopy indicates that it might not be a K-4?

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Medicman71 wrote::bored: Oh look. A resin pit that actually fits. Go figure.
This is always a cause for CELEBRATION! I love when resin parts play nice. The only real challenge was getting the casting block off the wide floor piece. These shallow but wide blocks are always a pain. My saw couldn't get all the way across in one direction so I had to make four separate cuts and work toward the middle... took a long time and cramped up my fingers pretty bad.
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Gee wiz. The harness is just kinda bolted on there, isn’t it :giggles: :giggles: clearly these fighters are from a time long before we Nerf’d everything!
And looking at this photo again, I can see that the bar in my photo was place upside down. It will be corrected when I install it permanently!
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You’re right, John. Is that the E-Series canopy? I will have to check out where that image came from, and if I find out I will let you know. Thank you! I’m excited to see the Radu canopy! I think if anyone can make the canopy hinge open and close it is you, though. Super!

Overall canopy developments:

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K-4 production line:

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I also have what I believe are K-4 cockpit photos:

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Thanks Bruce! That's a neat production line photo! But I don't think those are K's. Can't be a K because of the middle opening canopies. Not E-series or prior because of the spinner. So either F's or G's. Absence of circular fuel hatch under the cockpit points to a G.

And also... I'm not sure those are K-4 cockpits. The starboard side of the K-4 pit was dominated by a larger circuit breaker panel. You can see it on the resin sidewall and the photo below.
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I believe the K-4 came with a bomb control panel hanging from the center bottom (#51).
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But those photos are still helpful. The throttle lever is missing from my resin side panel so your photos will help me replace it.
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Apologies, John! You are correct, and that was a great assessment of the canopy type on your part. That is greatly appreciated, as well as the sidewall photo with the O2 system! Wow, that looks like it was a photo for the manual. What great details you found!
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