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Re: 1/72 Norman Motte and Bailey Castle

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:59 am
by Stuart
Oh the shame - Quite frankly I should delete this thread…

So my grand idea of a sculpted clay base with a nice Motte and some ditches died a death. The damn airdry clay kept cracking after 24 hours – this was the THIRD attempt.

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So having lost most of the weekend arsing about with this and running out of time (it has to be in on Wednesday) we went down the Paper and paste method – Crude but at least we had something.

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Annoyingly – because the Motte is now half the size we’d intended, it also meant that the building we’d constructed we too all too big – so we’ve had to modify them quite a bit.

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So we will get something together – but it’ll be a lash-up and not as good as we’d intended, but what started as a bit of fun, has no turned into a royal PITA – I’m just looking forward to getting it over and done with so I can get back to the Saturn V.

Cheers

Stuart

Re: 1/72 Norman Motte and Bailey Castle

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:32 am
by KSaarni
Oh no !!

That is really sucks, to say it mildly.

I am nevertheless sure you will make a good motte and castle in the end!

Thumbs up!

- Kari

Re: 1/72 Norman Motte and Bailey Castle

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:24 pm
by tigrazor
Yes, thats an experience you dont want to have. The secret is: several THIN layers, otherwise there will be lots of tension. Learned it the hard way too.

But:

Good solution with the newspapers. When they look too rough, try wood glue/fine sand mixture and you dont see nothing of the newspaper and have a very "earthy" surface. Again thin layers is the solution here. If it takes too long, you can speed it up with a hairdryer. Carefully, of course.

Re: 1/72 Norman Motte and Bailey Castle

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:44 am
by BorgR3mc0
I second the white glue/sand mix. In my experience it works best on a base with a similar color.

Re: 1/72 Norman Motte and Bailey Castle

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:10 pm
by tigrazor
Sand + washing looks good, but Tamiya Buff or similar will do it too.

Re: 1/72 Norman Motte and Bailey Castle

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 5:45 pm
by Stikpusher
Ah yes... :hmm: School projects.... I was so happy when my children aged out of that phase... :whistle:

Re: 1/72 Norman Motte and Bailey Castle

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:43 am
by Stuart
thanks for the advice on the landscaping - I'll try that next time I do something like this - as it is I painted it green and then used PVA glue and Flock.
Stikpusher wrote:Ah yes... :hmm: School projects.... I was so happy when my children aged out of that phase... :whistle:
Tell me about it - i love how the school's just assume you have everything in order to do this kind of stuff :puzzle:

Well as it is we completed it last week and got it in on time - it ended up being a real team effort with my daughter, my wife and myself all pitching in on the construction and painting - I mainly did the figureing out how to build it...

Here it is in all it's non-1/72 scale glory - it's not what I had in mind when I started but it was my daughters project so we'll leave it at that - she's happy with it so that's all that matters. Maybe not a model as such, but more a craft project.

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It has given me a taste for doing this kind of work though, and I can see a future project where I'll try and do something a bit more 'model' like on a larger scale - I think it could be fun.

Regards

Stuart

p.s. - oh and she won first prize with it!

Re: 1/72 Norman Motte and Bailey Castle

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:54 pm
by BlackSheep214
That actually looks pretty good. Now that you've got the figures in the mail, time for you to build another proper Norman Motte and Bailey Castle.

Re: 1/72 Norman Motte and Bailey Castle

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:18 pm
by Duke Maddog
That is excellent! I like it very much; your daughter has every reason to be proud. Congrats on the First Place for her. That is awesome. You should get a shot of the First Place ribbon next to this castle.

Re: 1/72 Norman Motte and Bailey Castle

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:33 pm
by BorgR3mc0
Between the setback of the clay cracking and the deadline I think you did a pretty good job. Congratulations to your daughter on winning the first price.