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Re: 1/32 Hasegawa Bf109K-4 Weisse 8
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:09 pm
by Floki
I can clearly see two different tones of grey on the front cowl, right above the guys right shoulder you can see a clear line between the two colors
Edit: In the photo Bruce has cleaned up you can really see it.
Re: 1/32 Hasegawa Bf109K-4 Weisse 8
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:59 pm
by speedgraflex
John, I believe you are on track with everything. I actually copied and pasted your research as a great source. So, sincerely—thank you. I definitely agree about increasing the saturation and moving away from the overall brown wash present in the profile. I believe that your subtle approaches with edges will be all that is necessary. I have a photo of a K-4 waiting in a field for service - and that is how I too would prefer to see the aircraft, more prototype accuracy than a diorama recreation.
Also I would like to know your thoughts about two areas with the profile. The first as you and Clint pointed out would be the cowling. It feels as though it comes from elsewhere than was somewhat blended in with the green/gray camouflage in situ, as a field replacement, perhaps, or simply as a different mfg plant’s contribution. I wonder if there is less hard vertical line and perhaps a darker blending on an angle towards the weapons? I am literally in two minds about this. So help! Is it simply a completely different grey with a vertical blend of grey green or the same gray with a light upward angling smudge of darker green/grey? I tried to indicate this on the profile with a green line. Also my feeling is that the numbers painted on the rear fuselage do not angle upwards (orange line). The 4 is not higher in my opinion. I think an easy way to verify is simply by copying and taping a copy of the numbers on the fuselage itself and orienting the fuse as it is in the photo. It just seems to me that if someone is painting on numbers they would orient from the top down in order to do so. Maybe I think too much about these things??

Re: 1/32 Hasegawa Bf109K-4 Weisse 8
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:38 am
by mostrich
Man, you have to love those late war patchwork schemes. Fantastic discussion, nothing is left behind.
Re: 1/32 Hasegawa Bf109K-4 Weisse 8
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:54 am
by jkim
I've seen the mismatch between the engine cowling and the rest of the fuselage in many K-4 photos. So much so that I am beginning to think that is was a semi-regular occurrence. There are a couple of photos in the JaPo book of K-4's fresh from the factory that exhibit this characteristic but I don't have my book in hand at the moment.
The only applicable photo that I could find on the net right now is this one, assumed to be 334148. Based on the lack of spiral and a tactical number, I'm not sure this was an operational aircraft but you can sort of see the tonal differences between the front of the cowling and the colors of the fuselage and tail... it looks like a third, lighter color. And the demarcation between the light/dark color on the cowling matches where the demarcation might be on White 8. I've seen some publications label these lighter K-4 cowlings as a combination of RLM 77 and 75.
The photo also shows the handwritten number on the rear of the fuselage. From the photos I've seen, these numbers, if handwritten or hand-sprayed, have that upward tilt. 884 seems to be upward tilted as, at least to my eye. Hard to tell based on the angle but I'm extending the straight line of the white fuselage cross as a reference.
Last note... take a look at the photo above. Do you see the light colored stripe between the tail unit and the fuselage? Very similar to the dark stripe on 884. And I also see a tonal difference between the bottom colors of the fuselage and tail, perhaps indicating two different forms of RLM 76 as evidenced in 884. The more I see of these photos, the more I start to believe that the color mismatches are not due to repair/replacement but were due to decentralized manufacturing.
Re: 1/32 Hasegawa Bf109K-4 Weisse 8
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:58 pm
by jkim
Here's a photo from the JaPo book showing a factory fresh K-4 without wings and featuring the mismatching engine cowling.
I haven't been able to do much work on the K-4 during the work week. Just cleaning up the fuselage. Here's the tail wheel area after a coat of primer.
The joint between the fuselage halves was re-scribed and the rest of the riveting has been filled in.

Re: 1/32 Hasegawa Bf109K-4 Weisse 8
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 3:43 pm
by jkim
Re: 1/32 Hasegawa Bf109K-4 Weisse 8
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:56 pm
by jkim
Chugging along before the Thanksgiving holiday!
I have the Henri Daehne prop assembled and ready for painting.
The fuselage seams have been addressed for the most part, so now I can glue the fuselage bottom into place.
An atypical kit in that the wings are separate. Dry-fitting the landing gear struts and Barracuda resin wheels, I can start thinking about weighting the wheels by sanding a flat spot on the contact areas. I've used a spot of wet paint on a post-it and rested each of the three tires into the paint to help orient where the flat spot should go.

Re: 1/32 Hasegawa Bf109K-4 Weisse 8
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:27 pm
by Floki
That pit is beautiful the weathering on the seat is perfect. That's also a nice looking prop going to leave the cone off to show it off?
Re: 1/32 Hasegawa Bf109K-4 Weisse 8
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:44 am
by jkim
Thanks Clint! Unfortunately, the spinner needs to be firmly attached to the backplate with glue so the prop hub is going to be covered up.
Speaking of the spinner, I've gone ahead and painted it. First comes a coat of white.
I digitized some spirals off decal sheets and made masks using the Silhouette cutter. For some reason, the DXF files that I export from AutoCAD resolve my spirals (which are comprised of compound curves) into a bunch of straight lines. So the spiral came out a bit choppy in some areas.
Using bits of Tamiya plastic tape, I cleaned up the spiral as best as I could. The prop hub was painted too.
A preview of the spinner mounted on the fuselage!
Here is the tailwheel after I've sanded a flat spot on it to represent weight on the wheel.
The wings have been glued together.
Finally, we have the gun cowling with the gun barrels glued into place. I'll have to paint these at the end but it should be easy since I made sure they don't touch the gun troughs.

Re: 1/32 Hasegawa Bf109K-4 Weisse 8
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:59 pm
by Floki
Again that is a beautiful looking prop. The spiral looks spot on to me.