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Re: Bolleken's 1:72 stuff
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:03 am
by Stikpusher
Yes, based off that photo I would suggest Olive Drab or Dull Dark Green. The latter is pretty close to Medium Green 42/ FS #34092.
Re: Bolleken's 1:72 stuff
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 1:04 pm
by Bolleken
Stikpusher wrote:Yes, based off that photo I would suggest Olive Drab or Dull Dark Green. The latter is pretty close to Medium Green 42/ FS #34092.
Thank u. And don't forget it is Howard Hughes, there is noch proof that he used standard colors for his beauty
Re: Bolleken's 1:72 stuff
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:08 pm
by Stikpusher
Yes, I remember seeing the aircraft in the movie "The Aviator". The real Mr Hughes was quite a unique character.
Re: Bolleken's 1:72 stuff
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:08 pm
by speedgraflex
Double thanks to you both about the green. Is it believed to be true that the primary color was Chevy's Grey Pearl? This was used by Lockheed on the XP-80A prototype.

XP-80A "Grey Ghost"
What's your thinking about this grey, gents? Is this what HAC used for its XF-11?
Re: Bolleken's 1:72 stuff
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:46 pm
by Stikpusher
The color on early P-80's was called Pearl Gray. I have no idea if it was a Chevy color, but I have read that it is similar to Aircraft Gray FS# 16473 that has been lightened.
Re: Bolleken's 1:72 stuff
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:58 pm
by speedgraflex
Stikpusher wrote:The color on early P-80's was called Pearl Gray. I have no idea if it was a Chevy color, but I have read that it is similar to Aircraft Gray FS# 16473 that has been lightened.
Thank you so much, Stik. I'm wondering if AS-20 Insignia White by Tamiya—which I used as the hull color of the Classic Series Enterprise—might be quite close to aircraft gray.
Re: Bolleken's 1:72 stuff
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:12 pm
by BlackSheep214
The lightest shade of gray would be Model Master Camouflage Gray. That's what I can come up with that could be a close match to what you're looking for. I don't know. I'm having a hard time believing you stating that Tamiya Insignia White is gray in color when it's really a white in color.

Re: Bolleken's 1:72 stuff
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:00 pm
by Stikpusher
It is something of an enigmatic color. IIRC, Dana Bell describes it as a lightened version of ADC/Aircraft Gray. Others describe it as a glossy Gull Gray. So light, but not too light. 36622 Camouflage Gray sounds too light. Whenever I get around to the P-80A in my stash, I'm just gonna lighten up some 16473 with white.
Re: Bolleken's 1:72 stuff
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:10 pm
by speedgraflex
BlackSheep214 wrote:The lightest shade of gray would be Model Master Camouflage Gray. That's what I can come up with that could be a close match to what you're looking for. I don't know. I'm having a hard time believing you stating that Tamiya Insignia White is gray in color when it's really a white in color.

I know it is really hard to believe. Sincerely. I found an interesting reference to how "gray" Insignia White is through Carson Dyle's shuttlecraft build. He used Tamiya's rattle cans: AS-20 Insignia White for the upper hull and AS-26 Light Ghost Gray for the lower half and nacelles. This convinced me to try using white as gray.
photo: Carson Dyle, 2012
I was planning to post my E build in the sci-fi section... and I want to return to Bolleken's regularly scheduled program now with my sincerest apologies.
Bruce /
speedgraflex
Re: Bolleken's 1:72 stuff
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:54 pm
by Stikpusher
That is an a good off white color... not a match for the US Color of the same name under FS or ANA standards. But could be useful...