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Re: Frog 1/72 Dornier Do 17 Z, 5K + AS8, KG3, October 1941.

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:43 am
by KSaarni
So simple but yet so powerful method!

- Kari

Re: Frog 1/72 Dornier Do 17 Z, 5K + AS8, KG3, October 1941.

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 7:53 am
by Floki
Borg. I remember reading about that several years ago it's pretty interesting.
Bruce. It's looking good, I'm also surprised to hear that the unit records are incomplete the Germans kept immaculate records on everything perhaps they was instead destroyed or damaged.

Re: Frog 1/72 Dornier Do 17 Z, 5K + AS8, KG3, October 1941.

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 8:47 am
by KennyX
:popcorn:

Re: Frog 1/72 Dornier Do 17 Z, 5K + AS8, KG3, October 1941.

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:07 am
by Stikpusher
Floki wrote:Borg. I remember reading about that several years ago it's pretty interesting.
Bruce. It's looking good, I'm also surprised to hear that the unit records are incomplete the Germans kept immaculate records on everything perhaps they was instead destroyed or damaged.
Yes they did keep precise records. But many such items were destroyed during the late war period to prevent capture. Or misplaced/lost then or during the immediate aftermath of the war. It is a common practice in various militaries to destroy such items to prevent their capture by the enemy in order to deny their use for intelligence purposes.

Re: Frog 1/72 Dornier Do 17 Z, 5K + AS8, KG3, October 1941.

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:15 am
by speedgraflex
I basically hit a wall with internet research. Without a work number to identify the aircraft itself I wonder if the decal scheme was pulled from a photo. I have not found the photo yet, either.

Re: Frog 1/72 Dornier Do 17 Z, 5K + AS8, KG3, October 1941.

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:37 am
by KennyX
I hate running into brick walls like that...

Re: Frog 1/72 Dornier Do 17 Z, 5K + AS8, KG3, October 1941.

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:43 pm
by jkim
The resin props look gorgeous! You may want to think about sawing the pour stubs off the spinners before you paint. They are small and will be hard to hold during the sawing process. I'd hate to see any painting effort get compromised due to rough handling.

Re: Frog 1/72 Dornier Do 17 Z, 5K + AS8, KG3, October 1941.

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:03 pm
by speedgraflex
Good point, John. I was worried since the blades are the size of pine needles what would happen if one popped off a support, which is why I drilled holes in the hub-blocks. I also need to work out a painting sequence. More or less:

Primer + Silver + RLM or Silver + RLM (no Primer). I think I need a neutral base under the red, though, which means a “spot coat” of primer on top of the hub.

Re: Frog 1/72 Dornier Do 17 Z, 5K + AS8, KG3, October 1941.

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:26 pm
by KennyX
That’s what’s been holding me back from resin. The sawing....

Re: Frog 1/72 Dornier Do 17 Z, 5K + AS8, KG3, October 1941.

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 7:07 pm
by speedgraflex
KennyX wrote:That’s what’s been holding me back from resin. The sawing....
Honestly as you move up in scale size of the casting block does increase, which makes sawing more of a challenge. I suppose with these smaller parts fragility is a factor. A good saw—Zona makes a very good series of cutting tools—will make short work of even the big blocks on 1/32 pieces.

Okay. I did some research.

VDM - Vereinigte Deutsch Metallwerke or United German Metalworks founded in 1930 built the propellers. Most of you know this. I did not. So this was good news. I now know that this propeller with controllable pitch is made of metal and will adjust my approach accordingly.

https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-o ... lade-metal Thank you, Smithsonian Air and Space Collection. Sincerely.

The next issue will be whether or not the hub was black or black green. At the moment, I am inclined to follow Owl's profile and paint the hub black green with RLM 23 marking colors.