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Re: 1/32 Henschel Hs 129B-2 Zoukei-mura

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:31 am
by BlackSheep214
I agree with Carlos with clear parts. Such a shame to hide the pistons when they’re going to be closed off.

Re: 1/32 Henschel Hs 129B-2 Zoukei-mura

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:59 am
by speedgraflex
Of the three approaches - outside only detailing (older kits), overly engineered detailing (current crop) and inside-out detailing (ZM’s approach) - not one is clearly superior. There’s an element of traditional artist study at work here. For many years an artist’s education was not considered complete until a real human skeleton was covered first by clay musculature then by skin. It was this understanding of the interior of human anatomy which was considered the final lesson for an artist to obtain a degree. I see many of our incredible builders here working a combination of each approach on one build. I personally believe that ZM is attempting a level of fidelity in understanding for the study of each aircraft. Their Concept Notes articulate their approach as being one of self-discovery over self-aggrandizing (boastful modeling, of which all forms should be stopped). Forgive me if this sounds as a defense. I merely am reasoning out what I think the major model building approaches are... and why they are. For me, that is most important. The Why.

Re: 1/32 Henschel Hs 129B-2 Zoukei-mura

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:08 pm
by Thomas_M
The company´s approach has always been to "educate" how things have been designed, and how things worked together to function.
ZM once had a poll among modellers if they would like to have the outer shell in clear plastic. The majority said yes.
Problem was, the same moulds are used to do the clear plastic parts as are the grey inner ones. So, the clear plastic isn´t really clear, but looks frosted. So, in my book, there is no gain, except you decide to use some (a lot!) of elbow grease to sand and polish the clear plastic shell.
On the Ki-45 sample I also got the outer shell parts are given twice: in clear, and in grey plastic. Way to go for me at least. It is much easier to work the grey parts than the clear ones.
But have a look at the Concept Note books, or the assembly manuals: it´s a tutorial way of doing an aircraft. Trying to recreate a smaller version of the real aircraft in kit form. Making it possible to have a "look" beneath the skin of an aircraft, what is normally impossible. It´s the President´s dream, and most interesting for me.

Re: 1/32 Henschel Hs 129B-2 Zoukei-mura

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:10 pm
by speedgraflex
Yes. That is definitely the philosophy behind the ZM approach. Their tooling is first rate. Tops. I am thinking about the 1/72 Horten!

Re: 1/32 Henschel Hs 129B-2 Zoukei-mura

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:08 am
by Floki
Wow this is a beautiful kit. If they could shrink this and the Uhu down to 1/48 I would be so happy. I'm more on opening up panels or doing a cutaway build to show off internals other than a clear shell but I could see why some would like to have the option.

Re: 1/32 Henschel Hs 129B-2 Zoukei-mura

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:59 am
by Stikpusher
I get the reasoning and I appreciate the detail. But it is sad that most of that detail will never be seen once assembled. We were commenting on the Miniart late model M3 Lee kits for the same reason. A complete interior of which only portions of are barely visible due to the late model version having the large hull side hatches deleted.

I suppose that these types of kits are natural for cutaway displays... :hmm:

Modeling skills required... :headslap:

Re: 1/32 Henschel Hs 129B-2 Zoukei-mura

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:19 pm
by Stikpusher
For a little inspiration...

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Re: 1/32 Henschel Hs 129B-2 Zoukei-mura

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:23 am
by Thomas_M
Beautiful shot, Carlos. This airframe easily could have been saved for a museum. :sad:
I am amazed by the uniform colour of the exhaust. Looks in just one shade of rust colour.

Re: 1/32 Henschel Hs 129B-2 Zoukei-mura

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:56 am
by Stikpusher
I’ll bet that this particular aircraft was salvaged, repaired, and sent back to either the UK or US for intel analysis purposes. It looks restorable to flyable condition. But it’s fate after that...

Re: 1/32 Henschel Hs 129B-2 Zoukei-mura

Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2019 2:25 am
by Thomas_M
IIRC at least one Henschel was brought back to the States. But then?
Despite no surviving airframe exists I am amazed about the stunning detail I see in the kit! Must be a heavy workload of research.