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Re: 1/32 Hasegawa Fw190D-9 Black One
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:37 am
by Stikpusher
Nice fix to the "Alien" blood spill. Afterwards one can never see what was there.
As the painting of this project goes forward, I am more and more intrigued by this method. I think in 1/48 it might be wasted, but on 1/32 & 1/35 aircraft builds, it works much better.
Re: 1/32 Hasegawa Fw190D-9 Black One
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:14 am
by jkim
BlackSheep214 wrote:I just love watching this all come together.
Thank you! I hope it turns out ok!
Stikpusher wrote:Nice fix to the "Alien" blood spill. Afterwards one can never see what was there.
As the painting of this project goes forward, I am more and more intrigued by this method. I think in 1/48 it might be wasted, but on 1/32 & 1/35 aircraft builds, it works much better.
I've found that the mottling pre-shading technique works very well in 1/48 scale, which has been my primary focus in terms of kits built.

1/48 Hasegawa Bf109K-4

1/48 Zoukei-Mura Ta152H-1

1/48 Airfix Spitfire Mk 22/24
Re: 1/32 Hasegawa Fw190D-9 Black One
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:20 pm
by speedgraflex
John,
I had insomnia last night which happens to me often, so I read your build update long after you posted it. So, I am coming in here late, after the fact, apologies. Your airbrush control is so beautiful. You really handle the layers in glaze fashion. I sincerely respect the skill to do layering effects with the ability in your mind's eye to know when the effect will be complete. One aspect of painting that concerns me is curing. I have noticed with acrylics a full cure takes 48 hours in our climate, and lacquer paints take twice as long, depending on opacity. Do my observations tally with your expertise?
Beautiful beautiful beautiful work!
I was thinking a lot about what Torben wrote re plywood on Doras. Here is one answer from Jerry Crandall, "As a means to employ more contractors into the war effort and relieve over stressed metal fabricators, more and more wood parts were used replacing those made of aluminum on Luftwaffe aircraft. One such part was the landing flaps on the Fw 190 Dora aircraft. Some Dora aircraft were equipped with red mahogany plywood landing flaps, two known are Fw 190 D-9 "Red 13" of JV 44 W. Nr. 210240 and the famous "Yellow 10" Fw 190 D-13 W. Nr. 830017."
Re: 1/32 Hasegawa Fw190D-9 Black One
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:29 am
by jkim
Thank you Bruce! Your description of the painting process as layering is very apt. The pre-shading, the camo coat and then the post-paint weathering techniques all add up to a combined effect. Recognition of certain things, such as the tonal crush that can occur after visually disparate colors and contrast are lined up next to each other, require adjustments that may look wrong at the time of application but will gradually shift as the other layers are applied. The goal, at least in my mind, is to trick the eye into thinking it is looking at something older, heavier, more substantial than the styrene plastic it actually is. It's a learning process of which I am in the middle of. Still learning, adjusting and trying to make each build a little better than the previous one.
As for curing... I think your experiences line up with mine. I will definitely give more time for lacquers and enamels to dry than acrylics. I find that Tamiya (and Gunze) acrylics DRY very fast. Fast enough that I can do certain things to the painted finish within hours of application. That is not to say that the paint is CURED though. If I need the security of a CURED finish for heavy duty masking or if I want to polish a paint coat with Micromesh, I will usually let the paint cure for at least 24 hours.
Black 1 is under temporary hold again as my season-ending outing at Barrett Lake is scheduled for this Saturday. I'll try and continue the paint process sometime next week!
Re: 1/32 Hasegawa Fw190D-9 Black One
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:38 pm
by speedgraflex
Today was stressful so I am visiting here far too late. Apologies. I think the combination of light blue grey RLM colors is very satisfying and very much in keeping with the way multiple layers of paint are/were applied. I was trying to "cast around" for documentation of this particularly Dora to see what the feelings of its aesthetics are, which was challenging in itself. A growth history of this particular craft covers an incredible period of time from its earliest inception through the final moments of the war. Its history is intertwined with its pilot in a very determined fashion. There is something of that connection between a knight and warhorse here. This is one very big, deadly aircraft as well. This comes through in your work most clearly. An incredible project, John.
Good luck with the fish tomorrow. This weather is ideal!
Re: 1/32 Hasegawa Fw190D-9 Black One
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:32 am
by BlackSheep214
Nice save on the Alien drip. What a way to improvise the cover up like it didn't happen. Well done!
I would have thought it would be harder on 1/72 than 1/48 scale.
Re: 1/32 Hasegawa Fw190D-9 Black One
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:58 am
by jkim
Re: 1/32 Hasegawa Fw190D-9 Black One
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:30 am
by speedgraflex
John, always a joy to see you creating the colors using your techniques. I feel you create from a very calm and focused process. I always slow down to consume your documentation as a result of your photography which captures the approach vector necessary to create such creative effects. I really want to savor the way the layers create the final flourish. I am kind of bummed about losing the transitional effect from RLM sky greys. I felt like you that the narrative of the plane was being told in various color fields. However, ultimately the colors must look right, and by right I believe you mean that by comparison to the actual plane's known colors, photographic evidence and evidence of your own eyes, primarily the latter.
Seeing your work, makes me miss my Red 1 specifically, but painting overall, the act of using color to define form, or in this case to help hide form from above and below.
I am a huge fan of the well-washed cotton t-shirt as a guard against scratches. The shirt also makes a good capture for dropped parts.
All the best!
Re: 1/32 Hasegawa Fw190D-9 Black One
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:57 pm
by jkim
There are many "ideas" that I have when it comes to modeling that never see the light of day. There is a separation between thought and execution and I will retreat from an idea if I do not have the skill to execute it correctly. I couldn't pull off the traces of the RLM 75 along the RLM 82/83 demarcation areas but the wing root area should reveal some RLM 75. And I can also do some mottling in RLM 75 along the sides of the fuselage and tail, which might be more likely places for residual RLM 75 to show up anyways.
Re: 1/32 Hasegawa Fw190D-9 Black One
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:52 pm
by speedgraflex
Every word. I feel that push pull between visualization and execution continuously, that is why I like to sketch ideas out, and definitely applies to choosing the kit as well.