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Re: Trumpeter P-47D Razorback "Eileen"
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 8:03 am
by Gary Brantley
Stikpusher wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:03 pm
Ouch! Just curious, but what paint are you using? Terrible that it had such poor adhesive and bonding properties!
Yes, as I venture farther and farther into the world of acrylics, I'd like to know that too. That's one issue I've seldom had to deal with using enamels all these years. And one I'd like to avoid as well.
Re: Trumpeter P-47D Razorback "Eileen"
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 8:45 am
by LyleW
John that is a tough brak, but I am confident you will make a seamless repair!
Re: Trumpeter P-47D Razorback "Eileen"
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 8:57 am
by BlackSheep214
Ouch! I hate it when that happens. I'll be watching how you will tackle this mishap. I'm sure it can be salvageable somehow.
Re: Trumpeter P-47D Razorback "Eileen"
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:53 am
by TheMongoose
John I had a similar problem on my super hornet. I finally came to the conclusion it wasn’t my handling of it. It only happened in one large spot on the bottom and I really believe it’s mold release that’s still on the model. After basically taking duct tape to it to find all the loose spots I ended up having to wipe it down with lacquer thinner to get the paint to stick(my 1st attempt at repair i laid down some primer and it still lifted). I was doing something similar to you in that I did not use primer. I was using an acrylic lacquer. that stuff practically eats away at the model on a normal basis
and you can never get it off. So it’s surprising to have paint lift. 90% of the model had no problems with paint lifting. It may really just be about prep work and washing the model down with some Dawn dishwashing liquid ahead of time as well when not using primer.
I wish you luck on the repair, I’m sure you’re gonna make it look great again.
Re: Trumpeter P-47D Razorback "Eileen"
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:05 pm
by Floki
I've had vallejo model air do this, paired with fighting awful tip dry I gave up trying to airbrush vallejo. Like has been said could be mold release, I always wipe down the model before paint with rubbing alcohol now.
Re: Trumpeter P-47D Razorback "Eileen"
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:06 pm
by Brandons_Iron
I had this happen with Vallejo over Gunze. Vallejo just wont stick well to non-primered surfaces. I sanded down with 3k, primed the spot and reprinted the masks. Shot it once again with Vallejo over primer and hand no issues. Lesson learned. I actually love Vallejo for Airbrushing, never had tip dry like others do. Maybe my humidity levels here or maybe that I only use their AB thinner with spraying it, never straight from the bottle. Good luck on the repair. Been there, done that.
Re: Trumpeter P-47D Razorback "Eileen"
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:09 pm
by jkim
Re: Trumpeter P-47D Razorback "Eileen"
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:46 pm
by tempestjohnny
Looks like the mishap never happened. Nice save
Re: Trumpeter P-47D Razorback "Eileen"
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:50 pm
by TheMongoose
Perfect! That is another great thing about weathering and doing a worn look, if you do have to rework something it’s much easier to blend it in.
Re: Trumpeter P-47D Razorback "Eileen"
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:53 pm
by jkim
Time to test the new paint finish and paint the stars and bars again. First the blue.
And then the white.
Moment of truth... pulling off the masks!
Masking is not done yet but zero paint lift so far gives me confidence in getting the rest of the markings on. Fingers crossed!