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I think the rib detail on the Meng kit is rather overstated. Although I wasn't building Fokkers in WW I, I have done a fair bit of dope and fabric work. Here is a page from the subject from the book I used in A & P school, and a cross section drawing I made this morning of a rib. It is an exploded view, but I have kept the relative thicknesses as close as I could. The Seine knots are usually drawn down below the wing surface after they have been tightened so they don't often show, just the cord. On a really nice covering job like is often seen on an airplane like a Staggerwing, you would be hard pressed to see any of this detail, but it will certainly be obvious on your average Stearman crop duster.

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Thanks, Brent. Thanks, Tom. I’ll post more details about using the clippers when I use them, Tom. Promise. Thanks, Carlos. I may rethink this and graft Eduard wings to the central piece of the Aurora kit. Maybe. Let’s see how the Eduard wings scale out with the other wings. If I do this I may be sealing up the central piece to remove any gaps.

John! That is brilliant. I think without any question I will use the Eduard wings grafted to the center Aurora support. I cannot thank you enough.

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I kinda liked what you did with the wings. It may not have been perfect but it was your idea and you executed it pretty well. Maybe a few coats of thickish primer would help lessen the elevation differences between the copper and plastic. It seems strange to use Eduard parts on a vintage Aurora model. Because it leads me to the question, "Why not build the Eduard kit instead?" Not meant as a criticism but support for the work you did on the Aurora wing.
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Hi John,

Thank you for your input! I bought the Overtrees "cheap as chips" on eBay. I paid less for these sprues than I did for the SMER kit. The idea was to hold these in reserve if any part in the Aurora kit design was an absolute failure. I own at least one version of Eduard's Fokker Dr.1, I think I actually own both "Weekend" and "Profipack" editions. I bought these after seeing Kari build an "au natural" Weekender (no paint, just glued together).

Why build a classic kit with donor parts? I think the answer is that practically everyone could build the Eduard kit, and many could build it better than I, so why not build from the Aurora/SMER and enjoy building something that means something to me? It brings me close to that night in the hobby shop with my dad and the decision to buy a Sopwith Camel and not a Fokker Dr.1 and I miss my Dad. For what it is worth, I am sure my Dad would agree with you about building the Eduard kit, but building is not the only point here.

The Tempest Mk. V Series II build from the 1/32 PCM kit is going to be, I believe, much more sensible than this one. The Fokker has a personal response. The Tempest is pure historical.

I always appreciate your kind words and love your way of showing process in your own work and through helping others.

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Sounds like a good enough reason for a build to me Bruce, and great work on thus far.
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Cheers, mate. I hope my words were not offensive or defensive. My Dad would say, “Follow your heart and do no harm.” This project is about following the heart, not the head.

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Yay... the kazoo got one set of wings on! That looks fabulous! :shoutout: :shoutout: :shoutout:
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No offense taken here. Just expressing support for the work you did on the Aurora wings.
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Thanks, Tom! Thanks, John! Sincerely appreciated and understood!
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Today, it was back to work on the Camel.

First priority, clean up the seam gap on top of the fuselage

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Add some strip styrene shims

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sand smooth and paint...

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I also test fitted the cowling and guns... more in a couple of days

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