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Re: FM 1/72 Me 410A-1, IIZG26, Gelbe Sieben, Werl, Germany 1

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 4:59 pm
by Stuart
speedgraflex wrote:Image
what Kenny said - it's a cracking drawing.

Re: FM 1/72 Me 410A-1, IIZG26, Gelbe Sieben, Werl, Germany 1

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 11:28 am
by speedgraflex
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Re: FM 1/72 Me 410A-1, IIZG26, Gelbe Sieben, Werl, Germany 1

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 11:36 am
by Stikpusher
Progress!

Any progress is good progress!

Re: FM 1/72 Me 410A-1, IIZG26, Gelbe Sieben, Werl, Germany 1

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 11:45 am
by speedgraflex
Thanks so much, Carlos. I am actually at the plunge point to hand paint the swirls or whatever those are called. Do I make a full mask or partial mask? When I looked at the decals the “tip” where the spiral (There! That’s the word!) begins at the center of the hub then swirls outward.

:hmm:

Re: FM 1/72 Me 410A-1, IIZG26, Gelbe Sieben, Werl, Germany 1

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 12:08 pm
by LyleW
For the me group build I’m in with an old Revell G model. It has rhe spiral on the spinner. I’d be most happy to email you a copy of the decal sheet. Give you something to work from...

Re: FM 1/72 Me 410A-1, IIZG26, Gelbe Sieben, Werl, Germany 1

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 12:21 pm
by Stikpusher
speedgraflex wrote:Thanks so much, Carlos. I am actually at the plunge point to hand paint the swirls or whatever those are called. Do I make a full mask or partial mask? When I looked at the decals the “tip” where the spiral (There! That’s the word!) begins at the center of the hub then swirls outward.

:hmm:
I’ve never painted the swirl stripe, at least not as an adult. And the ones I did as a youngster, hand painted, were pretty bad. I’ve only done them by decal. And those are a bit of a challenge to place just right due to the length of the decal and the compound curves of a spinner.

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If I were to paint it, I’d do the White first, mask it off, then paint the darker color.

Re: FM 1/72 Me 410A-1, IIZG26, Gelbe Sieben, Werl, Germany 1

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 12:33 pm
by speedgraflex
Yes, please, Lyle. I know the spirals are much sharper than the ones presented in the kit as decals. I chopped one out to see what was happening and it looked like a tadpole. I do think I should be able to brush paint quite a bit of this project.

Re: FM 1/72 Me 410A-1, IIZG26, Gelbe Sieben, Werl, Germany 1

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 12:36 pm
by speedgraflex
Stikpusher wrote: I’ve never painted the swirl stripe, at least not as an adult. And the ones I did as a youngster, hand painted, were pretty bad. I’ve only done them by decal. And those are a bit of a challenge to place just right due to the length of the decal and the compound curves of a spinner.

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If I were to paint it, I’d do the White first, mask it off, then paint the darker color.
Carlos! That looks great. That is exactly what the shape should be but I do not have that as a decal. It looks more like a tadpole, with a round head on it.

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Re: FM 1/72 Me 410A-1, IIZG26, Gelbe Sieben, Werl, Germany 1

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 12:49 pm
by jkim
Spinner spirals are tricky. There are different types of spirals on different types of spinners. I think the shape of the 410/109 spinners are one of the toughest to get a good spiral on. The 190 spinners are little bit easier in my opinion.

I've seen tutorials of using thin strips of tape to make a mask but I don't like how those spirals look. I usually use decals as a template to cut my own masks but cutting them can be a challenge. I find it difficult to cut the compound curves of a spiral mask even with a swivel blade and have all sorts of trouble in 1/32 and 1/48 so I imagine it might be tough in 1/72.

On my 1/32 G-10, I used the kit decal as a template to cut a spiral mask.
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But you can see how the mask didn't want to sit down properly on the spinner.
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So the resulting spiral was messy. But I used that as a base and performed tedious corrective masking around the spiral to clean it up.
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I was happy with the results but it took a lot of work and I don't know if this is a reasonable work plan for a 1/72 spinner.
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I think I would try the decal and lots of decal solution first. If that didn't work, I'd be forced to paint it.

Re: FM 1/72 Me 410A-1, IIZG26, Gelbe Sieben, Werl, Germany 1

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 12:50 pm
by jkim
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Ooh... that does look a bit basic.